tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12452759.post112721421122476318..comments2024-03-22T07:12:47.560-07:00Comments on Pitchpull: Times Beach, Missouri, Volume IIGreybeardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11919862790973521778noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12452759.post-66703922328491278872010-12-09T08:54:58.321-08:002010-12-09T08:54:58.321-08:00Well you seem to have PART of your facts right als...Well you seem to have PART of your facts right also, Donna. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Flood_Insurance_Program" rel="nofollow">Flood insurance</a> is, (and was) available to everyone. I know this because in 1974 I considered the purchase of a home that was in a 500 year flood plain. Like a smoker that thinks "it won't happen to me", I think anyone living in a coastal area or next to a river who doesn't partake of the flood insurance program is whistling past the graveyard.<br /><br />I lived in St. Louis during those years and my post reflects my memories of those events. I remember being incredulous that Times Beach residents could take advantage of others the way they did. SO MANY things similar to that are happening today (Katrina), I'm NO LONGER surprised by anything!<br /><br />I'm amazed you found this old post...<br />Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment.Greybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11919862790973521778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12452759.post-88901482704356620582010-12-09T08:16:29.497-08:002010-12-09T08:16:29.497-08:00Well, as far as Times Beach is concerned, you do o...Well, as far as Times Beach is concerned, you do only have a few of your facts right. It was considered a flood zone, therefore, not able to get insurance. I lived there, in the same home, my childhood home, since 1958. Until the time came on Dec 5, 1982 the flood waters never entered our home. And if you recall, it did not only enter our homes, but covered the town completely, where it was not even visible for several days. It took another week or 2 before we were even allowed to enter on foot, and walk a mile or more to our homes to see if there was a crumb of personal things that were salvagable. I miss my home, very much... but yes, now it is a State Park... hmmmm, go figure!! So I guess they must have done something to keep the waters from rising to the point of ruining their beautiful park... had they only done something to stop it from ruining our lives back then.... God Bless!!Donnanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12452759.post-1134372501192124252005-12-11T23:28:00.000-08:002005-12-11T23:28:00.000-08:00Funny, I ran across your blog while searching for ...Funny, I ran across your blog while searching for information on the town that I once lived in as a child! While I can understand your concern for forking out money to those who are in need in times of disaster, I wonder how much information you really have on the circumstances that surround these people? As a child, of course I could not choose where I lived. But do you not think I would have rather have lived somewhere else? My family did not get any governmental aid, as we did not own, but rented a home there. As for insurance, we could not get that either as no one would give flood insurance to a renter. So we were out of a home, clothes, everything that we had. As an adult, I am wiser to choose my living conditions carefully, but I have to wonder just how many children are out there like me who simply did not have a choice?Wolfiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13569468376954614946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12452759.post-1127402296079202412005-09-22T08:18:00.000-07:002005-09-22T08:18:00.000-07:00I'm not positive, but in most states, if you live ...I'm not positive, but in most states, if you live in a flood plain, you can't buy insurance, no one will cover you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12452759.post-1127398960785426542005-09-22T07:22:00.000-07:002005-09-22T07:22:00.000-07:00Times Beach is a creepy place. I remember flying ...Times Beach is a creepy place. I remember flying over it and thinking how much it reminded me of Phillips, Texas.<BR/><BR/>When I was a college dropout during the first Gulf War, I took a job as a security guard at the Phillips Petroleum Refinery.<BR/><BR/>It is the largest inland refinery in the world and it served our egos to think that this scar on the West Texas canyonlands would be a terrorist target.<BR/><BR/>When the refinery was built a town sprang up next to it to house the employees during the oil boom of the 30's.<BR/><BR/>In 1980 there was a huge explosion that basically wiped out the city. The plant bought out homes and shut down the schools, fire station etc.<BR/><BR/>I remember patrolling the old town after a tornado in 1990. It was a creepy place with houses and schools just abandoned and empty, laid out in neat little blocks. Fire trucks sat motionless in the fire station and it looked like the town populace just 'disappeared'.Mike Poolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02042224695300612454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12452759.post-1127307004588577402005-09-21T05:50:00.000-07:002005-09-21T05:50:00.000-07:00Two weeks ago, I thought, same as you, that there ...Two weeks ago, I thought, same as you, that there would be deliberate debate and a well-conceived and brilliantly executed plan at rebuilding New Orleans. This, I thought, would be the universe's attempt to compromise with me, because I dont think she should be rebuilt at all.<BR/><BR/>Yesterday I read that 87% of the city is now "de-watered" or whatever the hell phrase is being used. In a few short weeks, the city will be water free.<BR/><BR/>People are ready to start pouring back in. There will be no thoughtful rebuilding plan, nor will common sense prevail as residents filter back in. President Bush apparently promised to rebuild every home, every park, every school... I had no idea the Bush family fortune was so large.<BR/><BR/>Dammit, you forced my hand, and now I have to write the Anchorage blog before Rita pours Galveston into Houston.Infinitegtrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04931263466665114493noreply@blogger.com